by Scott Bremner

Can you spill a secret? Recently, when people have talked about The Ocean Buried chances are they aren’t just talking about a phrase from William Shakespeare’s Richard III.

They may in fact be talking about a five-piece Powerpop group made up of lead singer Tim Stead (originally from Owen Sound), guitarist Kyle Wallace (originally from Quebec), bassist Jeremy Hebert, drummer Luke van den Kroonenberg (a.k.a. Luke Van) and guitarist Michael Stewart are all from Oshawa.

When asked why the people should go out and see their band as opposed to another, Stead explained, “I think people should be excited to come out and see a show. I think there (are) a lot of bands and a lot of music that occurs in Toronto and I think there’s a big difference between going to listen to music and going to sort of watch a show, ” said the lead singer. He believes The Ocean Buried “strive to put on an energetic show and something that people can sing along to. We want to create moments that people remember for a long time with being able to get involved,” Stead said before discussing the group’s appreciation for their fans. “We genuinely, genuinely love to meet the people who come to the shows. We want to shake hands or give side hugs to people or high-fives to people and get to see the people (be) cause the people who we’ve met so far are the only reason that we are where we are and to get any further it takes those people again”.

Fan Megan Burnett first heard of the group through “friends (who) know the band and were telling me about them. I listened to a few of their songs and thought they were great.”

IN THE BEGINNING.

The tale of this band (whom I consider ‘the ones to watch’ and who I have no doubt will be as big as Sum 41 or Billy Talent sooner rather than later) began with trips to the mall for Van and Stewart.

“One day I was in the mall and I saw Mike and I asked him ‘hey man do you want to take some band pictures,” chuckled Van who added, ”and Mike said to me, he says ‘dude we don’t even have a band or anything?”

Stewart and Van started playing together.  Van then extended an offer to bassist Hebert. “I invited Jeremy to come out and jam with us and then we jammed for awhile and then eventually we found Tim and Kyle and we just knew we loved each other,” he said.

In my opinion, Van is an excellent drummer. The musicianship of both guitarists and bassist I consider top notch with a capital ‘T and N’. If I didn’t know about the band beforehand I would have thought that it was a side project of Ryan Key, lead singer of Yellowcard. Stead’s voice I consider the fraternal twin of Key’s, eerily similar but dissimilar all at the same time.

There were some of us in the band who definitely gelled quickly,Ó said Stead who explained that before Wallace came along there was a musician who they played with but he Òdidn’t necessarily fit in with us and we sort of asked him to move onÓ. Despite this the group count Wallace as Óreally one of the founding members of the bandÓ says Stead adding, ÉÓ he was there when we were writing all the big, important songs, he’s been with us for basically the entire timeÓ.

The group appeared on Muchmusic’s Disband, a show where a panel of judges from the music industry decide if a group should stay together or breakup. Stead called it, “a good experience”.

When the group played the gig it was only the third time guitarist Wallace had played with the band, but it could have been his maiden voyage. “We were able to book two shows rather quickly so that I got some practice with the band live before,” he said before referring to the band appearance on the show “ as more exciting than nerve racking”.

However, the group was not picked to be featured predominately in the episode along with some other bands as another musical act was selected to go in front of the judges.

“We were forced to become more of a professional band, we were forced to make sure we were aware of what people thought of us in terms of our music and our imaging”, Stead said noting,  “It forced us to get stuff together like a Tech Rider.” He also viewed it as “an opportunity to get to know each other better” In addition, he pointed out the group’“ sincerely appreciate that opportunity.”

On October 28th, of last year the group opened a Die Mannequin concert, which also featured Brown Brigade. The show took place at The Reverb according to Cindy Parreira, a Promoter, Booking Agent and Talent Buyer for The Big Bop Concert Hall (which can be found in Toronto at 651 Queen St. West, and includes The Kathedral, Holy Joes and The Reverb).

“The Ocean Buried is an energetic, positive band with a lot of talent. Their loyal (and growing) fan base shows the potential this young band has… and The Big Bop plans to be there each step of the way!” says Parreira.

Stead called that show “the beginning of building a Toronto fan base and from it so many positive things have come”. Later on during our interview, Stead said some kind things about the venue.“ We’ve made some really good friends (there),” he noted, pointing out, “it’s been a wonderful venue. Cindy at The Reverb has been just awesome”.

The band, he believes, is “still developing”. “We’re still just a new band,” he continued “and it’s still a new band in that area, but the Toronto scene has been wonderful to us and we want to keep working hard for the people that work for us.”

THE RECORDING.

Last year the group worked both with producers Murray Daigle (in the summer) as well as jamie k. (in late October-November 2008) according to Stead. The end result was their freshman release, a 7 song 23 minute and 37 second Mini- LP entitled, ‘Can You Spill A Secret?’

The Ocean Buried count “The Rocket Summer (and) Mayday Parade” amongst their inspirations explained Stead, who noted that the group have also been motivated by “a lot of bands that are in our genre. We listen to heavier stuff and we listen to lighter stuff and so it’s sort of a combination of everything,” he said admitting that the group is “not necessarily trying to reinvent the wheel with our music, but I think we try and show our respect and love for the bands that influenced us by having elements of their stuff in what we do”.

At first when the group described their music idols Stead joked that Stewart is into “Britney Spears and Madonna” and Van’s mobile has “tragic” songs on it.

This was the beginning of a really funny joke that all band members participated in. They like to have a laugh.  Their friendship and chemistry is noticeable within minutes of meeting them. Wallace even joked earlier in the interview, “I write everything, all the songs. I teach everyone.”

All joking aside Stead talked about how “each song is written completely differently” before going over the opinions. “Sometimes somebody will come to the band with a rift and we’ll just develop everything around it, in terms of lyrics (and) melody. Sometimes we’ll record the song and I’ll take it home and I’ll write lyrics and melodies to it. Sometimes I’ll have a skeleton idea for what I think a song could sound like with lyrics and melodies that I’ve written and will build it around it”.   Stead points out that “it genuinely is a team effort, it’s not directed by one person at anytime”.

In my opinion whatever method they’re using seems to be working.  Their music gets stuck in your subconscious and throughout the day you find yourself singing it.

The tracks, ‘Honestly, Honest,’ ‘ Whisper These Words’, ‘Can You Spill A Secret?’ are just darn good. They brought me back to the genre. The song,  ‘Believe in Me’ – it’s uplifting an example of precision instrumentation. In the case of the track,  ‘Stomach Butterflies,’ I like that it’s a song listeners can rock out to which also includes poignant lyrics. The same could be said regarding   the third song on the disc, ‘Falling Asleep At The Wheel which ‘has thought provoking lyrics that never made me stop paying attention to the musicianship and Stead’s talent as a songwriter. My only minor dislike on the project is the backing beat on ‘Whisper These Words (Remix)’. It didn’t seem to fit in with the rest of the record.

“The Ocean Buried rock. The guys were awesome to work with, extremely professional and came with some great songs and ideas. Few projects go as smoothly as theirs. Expect big things from these boys,” says Daigle.

Burnett calls the group’s music “really catchy, something you can really dance to and enjoy. Some of the songs I can relate to as well, which I love”. Her favorite track is ‘Whisper These Words’ though it was hard for her to decide.  She says of it, ”I love listening to it in the morning, getting ready for school.”

Stead has an idea of how their songs become that way.  He explained the group’s “positive vibe” and how it affects them. “Our Myspace is very upbeat and poppy. We try and have fun.  If we’re going to be doing stuff that is challenging …we want to have fun while were doing it and so for that we try to have fun with what we do and that translates into our records I think.” The singer desires that listeners “get positiveness out of what we’ve recorded.”

When asked about their experience with the producers, Hebert called them ”both really good” and explained that Daigle was “extremely good, he’s more like a master” said the bassist. It was the first time Hebert “recorded professionally” in the studio. “He just knew everything right away- what should go where, so it was really fast with him,” says Hebert about the band’s time with the owner of MDS Recording.  “Murray just knew what to do,” tells Stewart “he was able to, I think track the stuff really well and was able to make it sound solid and take songs that weren’t necessarily fully developed and finish developing them for us, just was able to make everything sound better”.

The Internet seems to be working for the band. According to their site biography, which can be found on both Facebook and Mypace they have “hit as high as number 4 on the Myspace Canada Charts for unsigned Powerpop, and opened for Silverstein, Ten Second Epic and Die Mannequin within the past few months.”

“That’s actually really coolÓ, says Stewart referring to their position on the chart. The best part about it is that we are writing back to all fans and our friends on a continual basis, he told me about using the site, ” That’s actually helped out our draw so much, it all shows we’ve got a whole bunch of people coming out just for us.”

When asked if in this age of new media he thinks that bands have to get on sites such as Myspace and Facebook he saidÉ ÒI definitely agreeÓ.

As of twenty minutes after three on May 12th The Ocean Buried Facebook page, (http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Ocean-Buried/46388863456?) listed 2,103 fans and their group on the site had 674 members (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=67ba107d2f2878a00df382eafbd1688d&gid=10544900979&ref=search). In addition, three other pages and/or groups about the band had a combined total of 508 fans/members and their Myspace (www.myspace.com/theoceanburied) had 11591 friends.

“Jeremy and Luke have been very good at getting to know people on our online sites” and Stead whom believes their “web presence is, I think something that’s a strength.“ He also thinks that the group “put in a lot of work into what we do. We love to help promote the shows that were put onto.”

“The crowd interaction…” along with “anytime someone messages us letting us know how we’ve helped them out with something” Hebert says. He notes that the group having gotten posts from fans, “saying our songs, ‘helped them through stuff’ is what “drives” him, “to want to play more write more, (to) do more shows”. He later mentioned “it shows that they know that we see more than fans, that we actually see them as friends, that they’re able to talk to us like that which is definitely what we are going for”.

When asked about his best experience since the band started two things comes to Stead’s mind.
The first being the Silverstein concert which he calls “incredible” and added, “when people show up to the shows wearing our t-shirts and stuff like that, that always make us feel so good, so when people came to the… show wearing our shirts and we’re there singing our songs that was fun”.    He also enjoys the moments when “it comes to a spot where it’s time for the audience to sing, and when people sing our songs back to us, for me that’s the biggest reminder of why I wanted to do this (is) that interaction with people and to hear people sing our stuff back to us”.

THEIR STAGE SHOW

The Ocean Buried celebrated their first anniversary together on March 27 with a show at E.P. Taylor’s on the campus of Durham College, UOIT and Trent in Oshawa.  Having been at the anniversary show I can tell you it was about three things, the fans (who seem to be fiercely loyal) friends and the members’ families. Speck of Dust, Final Thought, Beauti and This Is An Empire opened the gig.

“It was a great show. The guys were all in sync and performed their hearts out”, says Burnett, who has attended two of the group’s shows and is “definitely going to more”.

When asked about whether the group is surprised with how fast things have happened, Stead talked about the fact that they are “also taking it with smaller steps” and the others seemed to be in agreement with him. Among the goals, “we want to be able to get through this tour and feel so strong after we get done, with each other as a band and then continue on, hopefully next fall doing it again”. According to him penning and laying down new tracks for another disc are others. He also spoke about “long term” aims. “We don’t know”, he admitted, “The music industry is something that’s constantly evolving and there’s not one sort of, ‘ideal goal’ for every act. I think the ultimate goal for any band, should be to be sustainable as a band, and to be able to make enough of a living off of what we do that we can focus on it and be the best that we can possibly be at it”.

Certainly that they’ve been able to accomplish what they have in a little over a year is an accomplishment. They’re outlook, friendship and work ethic seem to be the reasons why.

In addition Burnett had some thoughts about what elements have factored into the success they’ve built over the last year.

“They work really hard and work great as a team. They love what they do and portray that on stage. They haven’t stopped writing songs and spend every opportune moment on bettering themselves as a band,” she says.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

The five-some are currently on the Absolute Leadership Development Tour replacing Cooperate Saturday who were involved “in a terrible bus crash in Minnesota”, explained Rachelle Gibbs, a lighting technician and speaker on tour, who along with her colleagues was there when it occurred.

“Corporate Saturday has decided to return home to write and record new music,“ she said before adding, “We wish them the best of luck!

In my opinion, from everything I’ve heard about how well the tour has been going the group has filled in admirably.

(It’s) “…a really good opportunity for our band, but we’ve also become very aware and into what it is that they do, so we’ve glad to be apart of the Absolute Tour and excited for it,” said Wallace back when I interviewed the boys in March.

But what exactly have they been doing for the association, which originated nine years ago?

“The band, myself and the rest of our team take part in the Think Day” said Gibbs who told me about the event. “The most popular component of this is Think Fast, a one hour show that combines the band, videos and personal stories of obstacles overcome. We also facilitate workshops with students discussing issues like self-worth, honesty, purpose and global issues. As a finale, we like to give the day closure with a Think Big- a concert integrated with personal stories.” For more information about Absolute Leadership Development visit; http://absolute.org/

Gibbs had nothing but nice thinks to say about the band. “I have enjoyed working with them so far, they are professional, yet fun. Their music is relevant to teens and what we are trying to accomplish in schools,” she said. The students absolutely loved them at the first show”, she said following that performance.  “They signed autographs for at least half an hour.  I look forward to this tour with The Ocean Buried.”

When they’re not on tour Stead considers The Big Smoke the group’s base of operations.
“Toronto and the GTA is definitely our home,” says the lead singer. “When we’re not living here in Oshawa and surrounding areas, we have another place down in Hamilton and so we’re sort of working out of there and we do a lot of stuff in Toronto, so Toronto is very much home for us, so if we can continue to make a big fan base in Toronto and make more friends there, that’s an ambitious goal I think too.”

One of our writers, Scott Bremner, thought it would be cool try to put together audio interviews. So check out our first TIMA audio interview with Ubiquitous Synergy Seekers, otherwise known as U.S.S. This is our first audio interview, please mind the quality!!

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Interviewer: Scott Bremner
Photos by: Arkan Zakharov

Recently, I had the opportunity to interview singer/songwriter Angie Nussey, who took home the win in the ‘Best Folk’ category at last year’s Toronto Independent Music Awards (along with many others over the years).

The following interview is comprised of three individual sections.  The first focuses on ‘Word and Phrase Association’ questions while the second offers more-in-depth answers regarding her career and her thoughts about music. For the last bunch of questions we revisit Nussey’s last effort, ‘Little Tragedies’ as she currently works on the follow-up.

Want to know more? Read On!

Section I:  Words  & Phrases

1.     “And the winner is….”  – Evening gown.

2. “ I was on Canadian Idol and…” learning experience.

(Nussey was a constant in 2003- considered one of the 100 best singers in the country).

3.     “Music means to me… “  – love, comfort, and adventure.

4.     “This is the era of new media and …”  – I’m fascinated by it.

5.  “True happiness is…”  – Sharing love.

6 “The best thing about university was…”  – I met my lifelong friends there.

/”The worse thing about university was…”  - having to take summer school.

7    “My fans…”  – seem a lot like my friends.

8.    “On my next record….”  - I will work a lot more on my performance.

9.  “Hope Café Records has allowed me to…”  – Has allowed me to embrace the music business side as well as the artist side.

10.    “In twenty years I want people to people say (blank) about my music.”  – this helped me get through a rough time

11. “The forefathers/foremothers of Canadian music are…” K.D. Lang, Leonard Cohen, Rush, Bryan Adams, and Joni Mitchell.

12.    “Charity”.   “Helping.”
13.    “”Commercials.” “ Funny sometimes.”
14.     “Lively, Ontario”. “Family.”
15.     “Humorous”.     “ Smile.”
16.    “Folk”.  “Wagon.”
17.    “Touring.” “Rental Car.”
18.    “Songwriting”. “Bedroom.”
19.    “Gig.” “Organizer.”
20.    “MP3.” “ Amazingly small”.
21.  “Artist”. “Sarah Slean.”
22.    “Superstar.”” Florescent Pink.”
23.    “Independent.” “Single mom.”

Section II Questions:  Career and Music

1.    Over the years you’ve been nominated for and won several awards, including ‘Best Folk’ at last year’s TIMA’s. You also had the honor of being named ‘Female Performer of the Year’ in 2005 as well as 2006. What do awards mean to you?

I have an appreciation for awards because they can sometimes help legitimize your efforts in the eyes of the media or event organizers. I also think that awards such as the TIMAs bring a variety of artists
together, which would never happen under any other circumstances. There is always a difficulty in
having your art judged against others. These are our heart and souls being put out there, so to hear it’s
not “good” enough is hard for any artist. In all truth, I’ve lost a lot music awards than I’ve won.

2. If you could sum of the experience you had six years ago on the television show with ‘Canadian Idol’, in five words or less what words would they be and why?

“Stressful, intimidating, challenging, frustrating, emotional, confusing….whoops that makes 6 words…I’m always breaking the rules : )”

“Six years ago I was still struggling with who I was as a person.  I wanted recognition as a songwriter, but I would have settled for any kind of recognition at the time. In other words, I still didn’t know what kind of success would make me truly happy. I snubbed the idea of Canadian Idol while still, secretly, wishing for recognition on a larger scale. By having these two, conflicting feelings, it was quite an internal battle. “

3. What was the first concert you ever went too and what did you think of it?

“I think my first real concert was to see ‘Frozen Ghost’ and ‘Platinum Blonde” at the Sudbury Arena. I went to see it with my Mom. I think I liked it.”

4.    You started writing at age seven correct? Do you remember what the song was about and how you felt after you had written it?

“I actually have a recording (on one of those hand-held recorders) of one of my first songs. I’m basically singing about how I’m going to be famous one day but I can’t right now because I’m only seven. I think I was quite proud of it.”

5.    You’ve released four albums in the last 10 years correct? What did each one teach you and how will they affect your next release?

“Yup, there have been four releases and one, 10-song demo in 1999. I mention the demo because I think it was the biggest step. It got me in the studio and showed me how things are done. My second release, ‘Circumstantial Overload’ was a much bigger undertaking as I recorded it with a band and learned how to work with other people. The third, ‘Paint and Turpentine’   taught me the power of compromise as I learned how to work with a producer. This was also a real test on my ego because I was constantly being challenged to become a better performer both on stage and in studio. ‘Silly Songs – Live at Hugh’s Room’ was a fun album to make because it was done in front of a great audience and had a feeling of warmth to it. Lastly, ‘Little Tragedies’ which is still my pride and joy. I made this album after discovering the power of focus. I had a great group of people working on it with me and the end result was almost exactly what I had intended. It took less than half the time of the album before, but sounded a lot better in my opinion. “

6.    When do you hope to be done recording your next CD and when do you hope to have it released by?

“I started the pre-production on my next CD in February. This is a different project from the last few because I’m trying to record most of it in my home studio. I’m hoping to have the album done by November 2009. “

7.    You’ve taken part in concerts for the fight against HIV and AIDS. Can you explain how these opportunities came about and what it’s like when you perform for a cause and not just for fans?

(The musical event in question – ‘Angie Nussey – A Summer’s Evening of Song with Dudu Manhenga happened two years ago and was held in Zimbabwe with Manhenga as well as finalists from the country’s version of Idol, according to Quentin Evans of Hope Café Records).

“The concert in Zimbabwe was a fundraiser for woman dealing with HIV and AIDS. This is bit different than fighting for the cure. These charities raise funds that help provide education and support for woman who are dealing with HIV and AIDS. Many of them are looking after husbands and children who suffer from, or are carriers of HIV. They are taught how to avoid contracting the disease as well as given support for their losses due directly or indirectly from it. I wanted to explain this because my purpose surrounding charity support always seems to come down to the same objective: empowerment. I feel that there is much work to be done to provide equilibrium for this world and that equilibrium will only see light if all people feel empowered. A lot of the time I end up supporting causes because my friends introduce me to them. As was the case in Zimbabwe. There is a very special thing about performing for a cause that matches with your belief system. It gives you a much bigger perspective as to what difference you can actually make, and what kind of responsibility you hold to help make differences. “

8.    In twenty-five words or less can you explain what you feel about the festival circuit in Canada, ‘Canadian Music Week’ and why you think Canadians appreciate music so much?

“Festivals and CMW are fantastic events in theory, especially for fans, but they’re only as good as you make them. If you’re going just to get signed, you’ll probably be walking away disappointed but if you go to play and learn and share, you’ll probably love the experience”.
“I believe all people love music. Canadians are just sometimes more expressive about their love. “

9.    What music are you listening to currently and who is your favorite artist?

“A few moments ago, I was listening to Canadian instrumentalist, Ron Allen. I listen to him almost every morning. My favorite artist is Issa, formerly Jane Siberry. “

10.    How did you come to sign with your record company?

“ Hope Café Records was a dream that my partner and I had over a year ago. With Quentin (my partner) being a non-traditional marketing executive and me being an independent artist of 10 years, we thought we might be able to do something in combination. Our ultimate goal is to eventually have a Café that supports live music of all varieties. “

11.    What two tips would you give to up and coming artists?

“ Tip 1: One of the character’s in Ayn Rand’s ‘Atlas Shrugged’, put it most clearly as this: ‘For there is no more tragic a fool than a businessman who doesn’t know he’s an exponent of man’s highest creative spirit – it’s the artist who thinks that the businessman is his enemy’.

In other words, if you’re not willing to understand that in order to earn a living, you need to consider the tediously boring business side, then it’s best to find a day job and to play music on the side. “

“ Tip 2: Do it because you love it, and if you don’t love it then take time to investigate what it is that makes you feel this way. It could be as simple as changing a band member, or as complex as changing genres altogether.”

12.    First time you ever got on stage-how did it feel?

“I felt like I had the stomach flu. I actually threw-up just before the show. “

13.    How does it feel now to get on stage?

“I usually still feel like I have the stomach flu for most of the day before the show. But getting on stage is usually a release after a day of tension. “

14.    Where can readers of this article purchase your records?

“ They can get it online at http://www.angienussey.com. Thanks for asking : )”.

15.    Is there anything new and exciting happening at http://www.angienussey.com?

“We’ve been doing some fun videos lately. Some of them are for the ‘Gem’ video involving beautiful people from across the country.( I cry when I watch them even thought they’re quite uplifting). The other videos are similar to movie trailers for upcoming shows.  Next month we’ll be posting a comedic educational video on the ins and outs of’ Private House Concerts’. As well we’ve always got contests, and challenges for the fans. We’ve had fun putting it all together. “

Section III:  Looking Back on Last Work- Two Years Ago: ‘ Little Tragedies’.

16.     (The song) Grassy Knoll-Are you a history buff? What implored you to write this song?

“I’m not really a history buff although I’m fascinated with the past. I was reading a book about John Lennon and the FBI files. It was basically a book that argued the government involvement in the John Lennon assassination. A section of the book studied the circumstances surrounding the JFK assassination and it spent a great deal of time describing life and history of Lee Harvey Oswald (the man originally accused of the murder). I became interested in Lee Harvey Oswald at the same time I was tapping out this funny rhythm on guitar from time to time. Eventually I just blurted out my thoughts to the sound of the tapping, and out came ‘Grassy Knoll.’”

17.   How did you go about receiving funding for ‘Little Tragedies’?

“I’ve applied for grants numerous times over the years, but’ Little Tragedies’ was the first grant application I approached with the most clarity and vision. The truth was I was making that album whether I had to sell the shoes off my feet. I was lucky enough to get funding from the Ontario Arts Council and what a wonderful relief it was! “

18.     How was the writing process for the record different than the one for ‘Paint and Turpentine,’ which was released three years before?

“My writing process hasn’t changed much from when I was young. Playing and singing songs has always been a way for me to work out things that are going on in my life. It’s almost like writing little prayers and reading them over and over again. The difference in ‘Little Tragedies’ was that my prayers were more reflective of the positive changes I was trying to make in my life, whereas “Paint and Turpentine” reflected more of the things I was seeing and feeling in the moment. “

19.     ‘Don’t Give Up’, ‘Unwritten Pages’ and ‘Change’ have all won awards. Where does your drive come from?

“Truthfully, I actually don’t have much drive when it comes to songwriting.  In fact, I think it can be debated that I’m a very slow songwriter.
But, once the songs have been recorded, the businesswoman in me has been driven to get them out into the world….and I have questioned why that is? “

“When I was younger, I wanted to prove myself. I felt I had some good sounding songs and I wanted the world to hear them, and to respect me for them. As I get older, I realize there is no amount of respect from others that will fill the void of disrespect you have within yourself. Pushing so hard to have success made me tired, unhappy, and sometimes jealous of other artists with more “success.” It is such an awful way to move through life in this way. So, as my internal battle for self-respect evolves, I find myself driven to release material for the sake of excitement….almost like setting off one of those homemade airplanes with the rubber band powering the propeller.  I’ve got this song, you might like it, you might not, but it’s my baby and I love it. “

20.    Were Mrs. Smith and Matt Osborne inspired by real people?

“Mrs. Smith was actually based on a few different women and her story had started out with much more detail than what ended up in the song. But I think the small amount of detail allowed her character to have a more universal quality….which is what I ultimately wanted for her.”

“Matt Osborne was a singer / songwriter from Waterloo, Ontario.  He was a good friend of mine who gave me a huge amount of support in my early years of performing.   We had planned a small tour together, but he passed away just before it started. (Readers interested in finding out more about him can visit www. mattosborne.com, a memorial website). It came as a shock to many of the musicians in Ontario including me. The lyrics at the end of the song are all snippets of Matt’s songs. He was a truly gifted writer.”

Check out more from Angie Nussey at:

http://www.angienussey.com